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Notes by Lynn Yarmey:
 
Notes by Lynn Yarmey:
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e-Lab Notebooks and OMERO - image curation (http://openmicroscopy.org/site)
  
e-Lab Notebooks
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Discussed relationship with DMPs
OMERO - image curation (http://openmicroscopy.org/site)
 
  
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===Issues:===
  
relationship with DMPs?
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*people keep notebooks for many different purposes, have separate styles
issues
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*extracting something from a notebook is dicey to start - so be clear on goal. For example:  patent suit, 7Mil to go through paper notebooks consideration - can you prove provenance from burned CD copy?
people keep notebooks for many different purposes, have separate styles
 
xtracing something from a notebook is dicey to start - so be clear on goal
 
example:  patent suit, 7Mil to go through paper notebooks
 
consideration - can you prove provenance from burned CD copy?
 
  
selection criteria -
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===Selection criteria:===
affordability
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ease of use
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*affordability
ease of access
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*ease of use
length of trial
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*ease of access
non-pharmaceutical-based
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*length of trial
needs to work for users
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*non-pharmaceutical-based
curation components - export files, metadata standardization
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*needs to work for users
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*curation components - export files, metadata standardization
  
Examples -
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===Examples:===
CERF (by Rescentris)
 
  
Cambridge Soft (owns ChemDraw) - downside, cost plus lots of backend infrastrcuture
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*CERF (by Rescentris)
layers over Word and Excel
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*Cambridge Soft (owns ChemDraw) - downside, cost plus lots of backend infrastrcuture; somewhat of a layer over Word and Excel. Cambridgesoft was recently bought by Perkin Elmer
cambridgesoft bought by Perk and Elmore (?)
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*Wiki + Google docs; digital lives study found big problems with legalities in cloud agreements, no promises about longevity, security, etc. If "the cloud" is an issue for you or your institution (citation needed?), you can run a local install of MediaWiki, Wordpress, and/or Etherpad.
Wiki + Google docs
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*University of Southampton projects with chemistry lab notebooks
digital lives study found big problems with legalities in cloud agreements, no
 
promises about longevity, security, etc.
 
  
Open Science vs.  
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===Open Science vs. Other research approaches===
  
costs - how to compete with Amazon in terms of cost feasibility
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Costs - how to compete with Amazon in terms of cost feasibility for basic file storage.
  
 
Phil recommends cloud for virtual machines for pulling out the data from boxes under the desk
 
Phil recommends cloud for virtual machines for pulling out the data from boxes under the desk
need applications that are compatible
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*need applications that are compatible
cloud-based applications
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*cloud-based applications
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===Additional criteria===
  
additional criteria
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* uptake
uptake
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* backend maintenance (in addition to production archival copy)
backend maintenance (in addition to production archival copy)
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* files on disk
files on disk
 
  
Issue - as soon as you export from a software, you are creating a representation that isn’t  
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Issue - as soon as you export from a system to another system (ie. from lab notebook to an archive), you are creating a representation that isn’t usually round-tripable. So what exactly are you archiving? Tension between archival version and actual work.
usually round-tripable.   so what exactly are you archiving?   tension between archival
 
version and actual work
 

Latest revision as of 18:52, 17 August 2011

>> back to the grid

Notes by Lynn Yarmey: e-Lab Notebooks and OMERO - image curation (http://openmicroscopy.org/site)

Discussed relationship with DMPs

Issues:

  • people keep notebooks for many different purposes, have separate styles
  • extracting something from a notebook is dicey to start - so be clear on goal. For example: patent suit, 7Mil to go through paper notebooks consideration - can you prove provenance from burned CD copy?

Selection criteria:

  • affordability
  • ease of use
  • ease of access
  • length of trial
  • non-pharmaceutical-based
  • needs to work for users
  • curation components - export files, metadata standardization

Examples:

  • CERF (by Rescentris)
  • Cambridge Soft (owns ChemDraw) - downside, cost plus lots of backend infrastrcuture; somewhat of a layer over Word and Excel. Cambridgesoft was recently bought by Perkin Elmer
  • Wiki + Google docs; digital lives study found big problems with legalities in cloud agreements, no promises about longevity, security, etc. If "the cloud" is an issue for you or your institution (citation needed?), you can run a local install of MediaWiki, Wordpress, and/or Etherpad.
  • University of Southampton projects with chemistry lab notebooks

Open Science vs. Other research approaches

Costs - how to compete with Amazon in terms of cost feasibility for basic file storage.

Phil recommends cloud for virtual machines for pulling out the data from boxes under the desk

  • need applications that are compatible
  • cloud-based applications

Additional criteria

  • uptake
  • backend maintenance (in addition to production archival copy)
  • files on disk

Issue - as soon as you export from a system to another system (ie. from lab notebook to an archive), you are creating a representation that isn’t usually round-tripable. So what exactly are you archiving? Tension between archival version and actual work.