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Notes by Lynn Yarmey:
 
Notes by Lynn Yarmey:
  
e-Lab Notebooks
 
OMERO - image curation (http://openmicroscopy.org/site)
 
  
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== e-Lab Notebooks and OMERO - image curation (http://openmicroscopy.org/site)
  
relationship with DMPs?
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Discussed relationship with DMPs
  
issues:
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*Issues:*
  
people keep notebooks for many different purposes, have separate styles
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*people keep notebooks for many different purposes, have separate styles
xtracing something from a notebook is dicey to start - so be clear on goal
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*extracting something from a notebook is dicey to start - so be clear on goal. For example:  patent suit, 7Mil to go through paper notebooks consideration - can you prove provenance from burned CD copy?
example:  patent suit, 7Mil to go through paper notebooks
 
consideration - can you prove provenance from burned CD copy?
 
  
selection criteria:
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*Selection criteria:*
 
   
 
   
affordability
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*affordability
ease of use
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*ease of use
ease of access
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*ease of access
length of trial
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*length of trial
non-pharmaceutical-based
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*non-pharmaceutical-based
needs to work for users
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*needs to work for users
curation components - export files, metadata standardization
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*curation components - export files, metadata standardization
  
 
Examples:
 
Examples:
  
CERF (by Rescentris)
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*CERF (by Rescentris)
 
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*Cambridge Soft (owns ChemDraw) - downside, cost plus lots of backend infrastrcuture; somewhat of a layer over Word and Excel. Cambridgesoft was recently bought by Perkin Elmer
Cambridge Soft (owns ChemDraw) - downside, cost plus lots of backend infrastrcuture
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*Wiki + Google docs; digital lives study found big problems with legalities in cloud agreements, no promises about longevity, security, etc.
layers over Word and Excel
 
cambridgesoft bought by Perk and Elmore (?)
 
 
 
Wiki + Google docs
 
digital lives study found big problems with legalities in cloud agreements, no
 
promises about longevity, security, etc.
 
  
 
Open Science vs. Other research approaches
 
Open Science vs. Other research approaches
  
costs - how to compete with Amazon in terms of cost feasibility
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Costs - how to compete with Amazon in terms of cost feasibility for basic file storage.
  
 
Phil recommends cloud for virtual machines for pulling out the data from boxes under the desk
 
Phil recommends cloud for virtual machines for pulling out the data from boxes under the desk
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*need applications that are compatible
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*cloud-based applications
  
need applications that are compatible
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Additional criteria  
cloud-based applications
 
 
 
additional criteria  
 
  
 
* uptake
 
* uptake

Revision as of 23:47, 15 August 2011

Notes by Lynn Yarmey:


== e-Lab Notebooks and OMERO - image curation (http://openmicroscopy.org/site)

Discussed relationship with DMPs

  • Issues:*
  • people keep notebooks for many different purposes, have separate styles
  • extracting something from a notebook is dicey to start - so be clear on goal. For example: patent suit, 7Mil to go through paper notebooks consideration - can you prove provenance from burned CD copy?
  • Selection criteria:*
  • affordability
  • ease of use
  • ease of access
  • length of trial
  • non-pharmaceutical-based
  • needs to work for users
  • curation components - export files, metadata standardization

Examples:

  • CERF (by Rescentris)
  • Cambridge Soft (owns ChemDraw) - downside, cost plus lots of backend infrastrcuture; somewhat of a layer over Word and Excel. Cambridgesoft was recently bought by Perkin Elmer
  • Wiki + Google docs; digital lives study found big problems with legalities in cloud agreements, no promises about longevity, security, etc.

Open Science vs. Other research approaches

Costs - how to compete with Amazon in terms of cost feasibility for basic file storage.

Phil recommends cloud for virtual machines for pulling out the data from boxes under the desk

  • need applications that are compatible
  • cloud-based applications

Additional criteria

  • uptake
  • backend maintenance (in addition to production archival copy)
  • files on disk

Issue - as soon as you export from a software, you are creating a representation that isn’t usually round-tripable. So what exactly are you archiving? Tension between archival version and actual work